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 Post subject: what is best, what do i need?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:19 pm 
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Hello m8!


I finely disayded to bye my self a new comp. :D :D :D :D
now i have a 600ghz targa whid a bad grafick card :oops:

I was wondering if you people can give me a some idea of what i shud bye. what is good and what is not so good.
Can anyone say if intel pentium 4 is better then athlon?
Well i have looked aroune a bit and this is what i was thinking of.

-intel pentium 4 3ghz (ht?) ore
-intel pentium 4 2.8ghz (maybe i can live whid a 2.5 will it be to small? it not so exspensive!)
-ore maybe a athlon of some chain (3200+ is the same as pentium 4 2.8ghz i think :oops: )

And i i have no clue one whits grafick card i need :shock: :oops:
but i think i now what i wont.
Radeon 9800 pro but is it worth the money? is there a card that is cheeper and is weary good? ( this one cost a lot of money)

I don't now if enny of you did understand a shit of what i have wrote down here but i will bee weary grateful fore enny help ore idees i can get.
Enny good ore bad exsperians do you have that can help be bye a good comp.
:? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :) :D


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SORRY forgot TO SPELLCHECK THAT ONE :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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lol treck i think they will understand what you mean :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Treck

First, what is your primary use for the computer? Do you want a gaming machine? A work machine? A combination, with an emphasis on graphics?

Another rule, in my opinion, is never to buy the most recent technology, since you will pay way too much money for little gain. Instead, buy what was hot 6-12 months ago. You will get pretty close to the same performance, but at a much better price.

Third: Don't buy a Mac!

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I agree with Mah, the 2.8 and 3 gig P4's are awfully expensive for the small increases in performance. I have a 2.53 P4 in this box, and it still seems blazingly fast to me.

Have a look at the ATI Radeon 9800 card. I believe it performs nearly as well as the Pro version, and it is much cheaper to buy.

You'll probably be glad if you buy a full gig of RAM, instead of the more expensive items you are looking at. :)

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thanx mah.

Well i play alot but will need it fore other things too so a combination i need. But ist it gaming that requers the most of the comp.?
i now that the new things are exspansive but and whats new today is old in a week.

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Thanx Nameless entity

i will look in to that card

and i was thinking to get full gig of ram.

THANX :D


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yes. ask yourself those questions Mahatma posted. never buy cutting edge stuff; you'll pay too much for little gain.

I take it you'll want to play UT and UT2003 on it.. look at UT2003's recommended specs and that should give you an idea of what your minimum hardware should be. if you play other games or use other software, take them into consideration too.

video card

ATI Radeon

9000/9200 < 8500/9100 < 9500 < 9600 < 9600 pro < 9500 pro < 9700/9800

- only look at Radeon 8500 and above
- Radeon 9800 and 9700 (Pros and non-Pros) are probably too expensive
- Radeon 9600 Pro and 9500 Pro are good buys (non-Pros are not nearly as good)
- Radeon 9200 and 9000 are basically the same (Pros and non-Pros)
- Radeon 9100 and 8500 are basically the same, they're about the same as an NVIDIA GeForce 3, and better than Radeon 9200/9000 overall

so, if you want ATI, go with 9800/9700 if performance is all you care, go with 9600pro/9500pro if you want to balance price and performance, go with 9100/8500 if price is most important to you.

NVIDIA

GeForce 4 MX < GeForce 3 < GeForce 4 Ti

GeForce FX 5200 < GeForce FX 5600 < GeForce FX 5800 < GeForce FX 5900

- only 3 to really consider: GeForce 3, GeForce 4 Ti, GeForce FX 5900

so, if you want NVIDIA, go with GF FX 5900 if performance is all you care, go with GF 4 Ti if you want to balance price and performance, go with GF 3 if price is most important to you.

between Radeon 9800/9700 and GeForce FX 5900, they're about the same. between Radeon 9600pro/9500pro and GeForce 4 Ti, the Radeon is the better choice. between Radeon 9100/8500 and GeForce 3, they're about the same.

motherboard chipset

AMD Athlon XP - NVIDIA nForce 2
Intel Pentium 4 - Intel 865 PE

processor

AMD Athlon XP - better price, good performance
Intel Pentium 4 - more expensive, better performance

memory

forget RDRAM, go with DDR. the faster the better. at least 256 MB if not 512 MB.

hard drive

your choice. do you find yourself deleting old files to make room for new files? if so, go for a bigger drive (150 GB - 200 GB or so). or perhaps your current hard drive still has plenty of space left? if so, a not-so-big drive should do you just fine. if you buy the drive retail, look for a 3-year warranty, such as those on the Western Digital Special Edition drives (these drives have 8 MB cache, or what they call Jumbo Buffer (JB)). get a 7200 RPM drive.

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I can only say this, I like my Dell. It may not be the fastest thing on the planet, but it is reliable. And it plays UT PLENTY fast enough, as well as every other game. It is also fast at the applications that I use, including all of the MS Office products, Photoshop, and Paint Shop Pro. I mostly use it for gaming, and surfing the internet.

My computer:

Pentium 4 2.4 Ghz. with frontside bus @ 400 mhz
1 GB PC- 800 ram (I suggest staying away from Rambus memory)
Wester Digital 120 GB hard drive with 8 meg cache
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
Windows XP.

As for the Pentium vs. AMD debate. This is like the Mac vs PC debate. Both have diehard fans who claim that theirs is better. Truth is that both processors are good. The AMD is a little bit (or a lot, depending on model) less expensive.

Whatever you choose, I am sure you will be happy. :D


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Clemmentine and Jarg

THANX :D :D :D :D :D


You have helpt me alot :D :D :D :D :D


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Get as much Ram and Hard drive into computer.That you can pay for.

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Speaking of Dell's, my brother and I have noticed that they are now building their units with 400 mhz RAM instead of the 800 and 1000 that they were using. Why is that?
So is my 8200 faster than some of the brand new computer's they're building today?

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Unless you need 1 GB of RAM for heavy photo-editing jobs, I would keep RAM to 512 MBs, which seems to be the sweetspot for using XP.

HDs often go on sale for cheap, so that is something you can always add later.

Focus on the chip speed, the bus speed, the type of RAM, and the video card.

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THANX fore all the input people!

Well it not often i will youse so mutch money on this cains of things so i desided to get a big one (it will be many years to the nexst time) The prize from the 2.6ghz and the 3ghz was no so big and the same fore the ram. and i don't need a weary big harddisk. so this is what i orded today and i get it nexst week :D :D


Windows xp pro
Intel pentium 4 3ghz
1 gig memory
80 gb. hard.
ati 9800 pro

I think i will be happy :D :D :D :D :D 8)


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Out of curiosity, how much does that configuration cost in Norway?

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