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 Post subject: Question for Herm or Schwantz...or anybody else that knows
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:00 am 
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I've been doing some reading on file redirection for fast downloads for server stuff. I understand everything that is involved to get it started and all but was wondering what programs are out there to compress the files down and into .uz format. The DOS method isn't tooooo bad but seems to be kinda time consuming and a pain having to type all those file names and redirecting the compressed file to a new folder.<br><br>So far I have only found one program that does this easier called UT CompressAlot. I am having some mixed emotions about this program so far. Not to sound toooo stupid but does it take a long time normally to compress files like this? I did some testing with this program and set it up to do about 8 maps and it seemed to take forever. I got sorta freaked out and stopped it after about 10 minutes and only 3 files done out of the set of 8. As far as I can tell everything seemed to be running fine but this is new territory for me and my freaking out about it might be for nothing.<br><br>If I can work out the compression stuff then the rest is pretty much cake. Let me know if there are other programs out there and possibly where to find these lovely Gems.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>The Compressed Depressed |<idcapri <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub44.ezboard.com/bschwantzsredeemerarenaserver.showUserPublicProfile?gid=kidcapri@schwantzsredeemerarenaserver>Kidcapri</A> at: 3/26/03 3:02:30 pm<br></i>


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 Post subject: What I do...
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 4:39 pm 
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I make a new folder called UZ and put it in C<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> unrealtournament. (This won't work on machines using XP). Then I collect everything I want to compress and put it in the UZ folder. There are really only about 6 different types of UT files to compress. They are: .UNR, .UMX, .UAX, .UTX, .U, and .INT give or take a couple more. Then I arrange them by order of type. I then use this command to compress the maps for instance:<br><br>ucc compress ..\UZ\*.unr<br><br>That means to compress all of the .unr files in the UZ folder and leave the compressed files in the UZ folder! I do this to every file type there is in the UZ folder, just change the last part of the command to *.file extension of file type. Then I copy all of the .UZ files to the webserver. Done!<br><br> The beauty of using this method is you can't mispell the files this way. If any one thing is mispelled, the server will crash the second it starts up. That becomes a nightmare trying to find the one little thing you did wrong over the hundreds of files you put up on the server.<br><br> Little files are fast. Big files aren't fast. Slow PC's suck for this. I have a XP2100. A 5mb file can take up to 5-10 minutes. The compression will max out your chip everytime. It will seem like you locked up. I just walk away and come back to see if I'm back to a c<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> unrealtournament\system prompt. If I am, then its done. 30 maps will take a long time to compress.<br><br>Hope this helps! Later!<br><br>Hermskii <p></p><i></i>

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 Post subject: U DA MAN!!!! ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY HERMSKII
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 5:26 pm 
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Sorry I went a bit overboard on the subject line but gots to give props where props are due.<br><br>That cleared up everything I had a question about Herm.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> I had a feeling I was freaking out for no reason considering the time it was taking to compress just 8 map files. I was really stressin the fact of possibly having to do each one of the files one by one. I knew there had to be a way to basically do a batch of files at once. I think my server computer will be busy for a very long time waiting for the files to compress but that's no biggie considering compressing files will be its only task for a day or 2. Thanks for the XP tip too. I was trying the test stuff on my 1.8 GHz P4 running XP and thought I had broke it.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Thanks for the help......Lord I need it.<br><br>The compressed un-depressed |<idcapri <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: About the XP
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 6:59 pm 
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The reason is doesn't work on XP is that XP doesn't like long file names or something. If you bring up a command prompt like c<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> and you use the change directory command like to go to the ut directory, the command should look like this: c<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> cd unrealtournament. The problem is unrealtournament is longer than 8 characters, so it says that it's an invalid command or something like that. The way I got around it was to rename my c<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> unrealtouranment to unrealtournamentoriginal. Then I reinstalled UT to the default c<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> unrealtournament location. Then I renamed the folder to UT. Now I can go to the command line and change to c<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ut. then I went to c<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ut\system and ran the UCC compress tool after I had made A UZ folder. There are better ways but I was in a hurry and this was the first thing that came to mind unfortunately. So, it is possible on XP but it seems that the DOS file naming convention or the 8.3 rule applies to XP. The things we have to do to play games these days. Sheesh!<br><br>Hermskii <p></p><i></i>

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 Post subject: Re: About the XP
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:15 pm 
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<br>Hey, can u really put that smiley face ( <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ) at the command prompt? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><br><SRA>/v/ahatma</p><i></i>

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 Post subject: Got a good start on everything......
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 10:00 am 
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LOL Mah, that sure would make dos alot more fun to mess with. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Thanks for all the help Herm. With all the crazy stuff going on in my life I finally got to sit down and start messing with my server box last night. Messed with compressing a couple of test files the way you have showed me and it seems to work like a charm. Your right about it taking awhile to compress the files down (3 maps took about 15 minutes) but everything seemed to be working without a hitch.<br><br>Now the fun beginning with trying to remember everything I did before to set the server up. Should not be too bad.....just remembering what goes where and so on and so forth.<br><br>Now that I have almost everything I need the next order of business is trying to figure out the webserver stuff for the redirection itself. I have done some reading and from the looks of things I can actually do the redirection from the same machine instead of having to look for webspace to dump all the compressed files. I loaded all the extra stuff for this off the win2000 cd and now it boils down to a bunch of reading and figuring out how to set it up and start it. Hey Herm, have you ever thought about or tried to do this before? If so, is it more of a pain than its worth or would it be easier to just go on and try and find some free space to dump the files. I'm sure doing the redirection from the same box would be alittle slower than it would from a website but it sure would be faster than the other way which feels like you've been thrown back to the realm of the 5 or 6 K'ers.<br><br>Anyways.....I should be moving into my new place this Saturday but will not have internet until Monday or Tuesday. Hopefully I will have everything up and running by Tuesday night if all goes well.<br><br>Again.....thanks for the help Herm.<br><br>|<idcapri <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub44.ezboard.com/bschwantzsredeemerarenaserver.showUserPublicProfile?gid=kidcapri@schwantzsredeemerarenaserver>Kidcapri</A> at: 3/28/03 9:03:26 am<br></i>


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 Post subject: Redirect from server box?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 7:36 pm 
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Hey Kid,<br> If that is possible, I never knew about it. Still, even if it is, it would be faster than regular but still too slow. My cable at best uploads at 30kbps. If I redirected to myself, it would still only be 30kbps. I redirect to the web server which sends it at around 250-400kbps. Even at the slowest speed, that's still over 8 times faster than straight from the box through a cable modem. My math may be off but it sure feels right. Good luck with the move. Let me know if I can help.<br><br>Hermskii<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

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