Hey Herm ! Was just on Cg's and played a few rounds and got absolutely nowhere! I went to Nwro and played a few games and noticed a HUGE !!! Difference in how much better it was with my 56K connection to play there !! Its got to be the Game speed that makes the Difference between the two servers in how well it plays for us 56k'ers , I know that both Kidcapri and Bo both have the game speed cranked up more to give us 56k'ers a much smoother and noticably better game play ! ... Is there any way you could crank it up to try it out to see if it helps??? ... I 'm almost positive this will make a huge difference for all the 56k gang !!.... 8) ! thanks for anything you can do !! I'll make you some of those "Special " Brownies :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :shock:

Chef Tri :)

just be patient.. I was just on CG and NWRO and I was able to win at both places. and I'd say the lag (the red icon of doom) at NWRO is worse than usual tonight (Saturday night, from about 10 PM to midnight Eastern Standard Time), while CG played like usual. but then I did win against Death Inc more often than usual tonight at NWRO, so I'm not complaining. there is a difference in game speed? I didn't notice that.

while you got nowhere on CG, I did get to do something that I never thought was possible on any server--finish the game with 26 frags and no deaths all without firing one shot (not even the translocator). I'll post the screen shot soon on my website ( http://trueorder.home.mindspring.com/ ) and let you all guess how I did it.. :D

- clemmentine ( Tempest_Cloud_Arashi / Maiden_Arashi / ARWEN_EVENSTAR / [MoR]Eowyn / Trinity. )

[quote="clemmentine"] there is a difference in game speed? I didn't notice that.

You're Kiddin :shock: ...you cant tell the difference in the two servers ????????? I may not 've been playing UT very long for sure , but its very apparent that an increase in the speed of the game makes a big big difference even when I had DSL !..and I Think that |< idcapri had it even faster than Bo's is now ! and it played smoother than glass as does Bo's 8)..I got on Cg's and its like walking thru mud , yestererday I would respawn and try to walk to another location on the map and i couldn't stay in that position !! like i'd float back out in the open again !! I rebooted and came back in and it was alittle better ( ping was better ) ! but its still impossible for me to do the " Death Inc double Tap " 8) :wink: technique at all ! and I can do that on Nwro !! So it doesn't make sense to me as Cg's should be better for me being in GA . ??????? Let me know what ya'll think !!

Later !!

Chef Tri 8)

I know my ping has been staying in the 300-400's. every so often it drop into the high 200's. Probably just my connection. But I do experience heavy lag at times.
I will say that I have won some games against new people playing as long as the regulars aren't on, even with the lag and slow connection.
Can the game speed help us 56k'ers

This doesn't make any sense. Yes, there is a setting for game speed. I think mine is at 110% right now. CG has for years been on the default speed which I think is 100% and a month and a half ago, I set it up just a tiny bit.

I don't think it has anything to do with it and if it did, I'd imagine that increasing the speed would only make things worse if anything. Over all, I don't think it makes any difference at all what the game speed is. I always left it slow so that people with slower connections could actually have enough time to get the info they needed in order to guide the missile properly around corners. I figured that if I set it up faster much that a spike in ping would mean the difference between getting the shot around the corner or actually hitting the corner and fragging one's self.

There is another setting called tick rate or something that I had changed a while back too. It is the culprit if anything is to the 56Kers here. I will find out what the default was and put it back to it.

This drifting thing you are talking about is new to me and the first I've heard of it. I can assure you that it isn't related to my server at all. If you stop moving your mouse, and your player keeps moving, I'd call a priest!

I've had no complaints in months about connection issues. I am enjoying the faster connection speeds I've ever had. if others are having these issues, please chime in here. Try to notice what your regular pings are and gameplay ability.

could be the gravity he's having the probs with i remember you saying you were putting it up along with game speed and personaly didnt like it set higher cant jump to the usual hiding spots have to use the teleport for some of the easier hiding points also in the lower grav maps it makes a big difference
Dark :roll: :twisted: :twisted:

Herm did you do whatever it was to the tick rate yet ??? let me know when you do so i can try it out ! ...also while I"m in the "Dog house " :razz: ...Is all those messages that shows up on Cgs' aluding to different facts and stuff , possibly eatin up resources ???
I Don't know about the others here but it seems that this is getting in the way of playing , just a distraction more than a help!!Was funny at first now its just somethin to get in the way on the screen !! :roll: ...just my .02 c !... and i still contend that the game speed if set right makes for a better and more exciting game , as it was on just 100% it was like absolute mud even when i had DSL ! when I'd come from one of the other servers to CG its was immediatly noticible ! it was WAY WAY slower and " Muddier" in game play !! I may be a nut or somethin ,but I like to practice locally at up to turbo speeds !!! :mrgreen: !!
later all ,

Chef Tri 8)

I give up. How'd you do that? I'll take any advantage to keep from getting pounded by you like in the top room on Peak.

Hmmm. The Clemintine challenge....

Seeing that it is 8ball1C, and the weird spawning points, I would say that you did telefrag the folks in some form. My first idea was that you jumped on them, but to get that many frags in that amount of time would be nigh impossible.... or would it???

One of the two answers has to be right, as there is not another way to kill opponents. Either you spawned where someone was standing (highly unlikely to NOT have deaths with the folks in the room at the time) or you jumped on them (INCREDIBLY difficult as most folks hit the ground running in a small room).
UNLESS there is a "pod crouching" trick that works with the pistons that push you out when you spawn..

Interesting puzzle, Clem.

yes, the screen shot has been up on my website for a while now, but I think I'll wait a bit longer before I reveal this extremely simple trick.. :D

ah, the top room on Peak.. one of the few spawn kill centrals on that map.. but the trick on 8Ball1c will only get you killed on a map like Peak. so far, this trick is only useful on 8Ball1c with 10+ players on. tried the same trick with fewer players on, and ended up with far far fewer frags.

a hint would be that all 26 frags were done in the same fashion.

telefrag is correct. what do you mean by 'jumped on them'?

remember that when you die, your death count increases by one, and you respawn moments later. and also your death count cannot decrease. so for someone to get zero deaths, it means that person spawned only once the entire match--at the beginning of the map. because of that, I could not have spawned where someone was standing for all 26 frags.

I'll be using a new name Tuesday night, though I'm beginning to like the name Tempest_Cloud_Arashi.

what's the 'Death Inc double tap'? a dodge move?

no complaints here; CG is playing the way I'm expecting it to be.

Hermskii, didn't you also change the Air Control value some time back?

- clemmentine ( Tempest_Cloud_Arashi / Maiden_Arashi / ARWEN_EVENSTAR / [MoR]Eowyn / Trinity. )

Here is the setting:

NetServerMaxTickRate=20

I had it up to 40 based on something I read but reading further, it mentioned that setting could play hell on 56Kers. I have set it back down to 20 but I haven't rebooted because there are several players on right now.

I never increased gravity but I did reduce air control. It made it a little more real since when was the last time you were falling and was able to will yourself to fall 5ft in one direction and then 4ft in another before you landed. I always thought it was stupid so I reduced it though the minimum setting still has too much control IMHO. Sorry DM. It was your imagination. You've always been able to jump. The only things I can control are air control and game speed. JUMP HARDER! LOL

I reboot in a few so Trigon (who is never in the doghouse), notice is given. I put it back so let me know how it feels. Sorry about the speed but I think it's perfect as is. Stop practicing so fast! I think I agree about the server adds. I don't think they eat any cycles but they are getting old. I'll pull them off soon. Anything else?

Peace!

Hey, I like those funny facts!!! They crack me up. Lately though, it seems like the same ones over and over -- perhaps because the games go so quickly and the timing of their appearances is spaced out. Is there a way to set it to random?

Played nicely tonight, but I didn't think it ran badly before. Personally, I liked air control, because you could do some funky shit. But reality is ok too.

Anyone else want some?

Mahatma

must be the air control then not being able to glide as easy in the air I notice it far more on hyperblast and maps with lower gravity thought you had lowered the gravity but as you said its the air control it is harder to guide or fly around but am used to it now
Dark :roll: :roll: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Clem asked:


You can jump on players and they take damage. If you land on them enough, they will die. I can't imagine how to do it enough to kill your opponent, though...

So telefraging is how, but then to do this without the x-loc, you need a portal to tele to a spawn point. Due to the 0 deaths, I would assume that it is REALLY close to the spawn point. You spawn, and run to the portal, and hope that someone has spawned right before you go into the portal. Also, it has to be a protected area to nullify splash damage from the 'deemers. That is the only way I can think of. Am I close?
*EDIT*

Okay, I give up. Bigi and myself tried everything we could think of, and no luck. Bigi discovered the you could pod crouch, and stay up in the pod like in Fractal, but no spawn kills... And my idea is bunk because there are no portals in the map...

PLEASE TELL ME HOW, CLEM!!! :?

I give up. I have spent probably a total of an hour on there with 10 bots, and even tried to find some secrets for 20 minutes with no bots.

Although I did find some neat tricks...no luck on the kill. I am not sure what the gravity boots are for though.