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 Post subject: Linux...Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhh
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:19 am 
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OK folks. I have recently tried to install Yellowdog Linux 2.3 on my B&W G3 and no dice. I've reinitialized the Hard drive numerous times and started over from scratch but I keep getting hung up at the formatting part of the whole process. I tried installing on a single drive with no OS at all, a 2 partition drive with no OS, and a 2 partition drive with OS9. Each time a left all or haf of the drive unallocated for the installation process. I followed the directions to the "T" but no go. I'm a little miffed. This would have put me into the realm of Geekdom for sure. <br> The hard drive is used so perhaps it's the drive itself or perhaps something went wrong during the downloading of YDL. I am going to check out the drive with Techtool Pro but I'm guessing I wont find anything. So if any of you guys have advice (Sun, Schwantz), then I would really appreciate it. My next move is get a used drive off ebay and see if that works. <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Oooops
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:39 am 
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Looks like I have a size issue. Icon will be adjusted for next posting. Sorry about that gargantuan head. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>Naughtius Maximus (A.K.A.Mac-Fondler)</p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Oooops
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 1:08 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Linux...Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhh
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 3:55 pm 
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Did you try <br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/solutions/ydl_general/failed_install.shtml">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->?<br>This guy seems to have had a similar problem to yours(his is when the bootloader was being installed).<br>Don't give up!<br><br>DS<br>BTW...Marmite rocks! <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Love them 1 hit wonders.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 8:46 pm 
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I am about to go blind Mah. You need to get out of the 80's bro. "This much is troohoo. This much is troohooohooo. I know I know I know this much is truuueee.<br><br> Hey sun that was a very imformative article but not sure if it was the same issue. My head began to spin about 3 quarters of the way through it so I may be wrong. I seem to be able to get the partitions up but soon as it goes to format it just sorta stalls. I don't think its locking up so to speak. There is just nothing going on with the drive. Formatting after setting up the partitions (boot,swap & root) shouldnt take long right? I'm gonna give it one more shot and see where I get with it. perhaps I missed something but i don't think so.<br> As it turns out I ran techtool pro on the hard drive in question and it did have some bad blocks and each time I tried to repair them they showed up again the next time I ran TTP. Go figure. This is why I am thinking that the drive might be screwed. I also noticed a very slow boot up time on this drive. I mean ridiculously slow. I think this time I'll run 3 partitions with OS9 as well as OSX and see what happens. Can't see how this would change anything but I'm willing to try anything at this point. Thanks for the help Sun.<br> <p>Naughtius Maximus (A.K.A.Mac-Fondler)</p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 10:11 am 
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hey windows might work.....<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :evil --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/devil.gif ALT=":evil"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :evil --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/devil.gif ALT=":evil"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :evil --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/devil.gif ALT=":evil"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :evil --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/devil.gif ALT=":evil"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :evil --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/devil.gif ALT=":evil"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :evil --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/devil.gif ALT=":evil"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>YoUrPiMp<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>PIMPOLOGY</p><i></i>


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 Post subject: New it.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 12:05 pm 
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Somehow I knew that was coming, and coming from you of course.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>As it turns out it looks like it's the drive folks. Can't seem to get any OS to hold. OS9 was close but it pretty much froze up during boot up. As it turns out all my HD's are maxtors and this one is a western digital. I'll be keeping my eyes out for a small Maxtor drive so I can get this thing rolling. Thanks for all the input folks. <p>Naughtius Maximus (A.K.A.Mac-Fondler)</p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: New it.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 7:01 pm 
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Sure windows might work...if this was an intel based PC. Of course, in the infancy of what is now known as Windows 2000/XP(actually NT 3.51), Microsoft did have a version that ran on the PowerPC architecture as well as the DEC Alpha in NT 4.0(Details <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winserver2k3_gold1.asp">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->). Good old Billy Gates and his cohorts killed that though, so no dice Pimp. Even if windows could run on it, could it run well? Maybe it would, we will never know. They really should, since Big Blue puts out some rather beefy servers that use the PowerPC chips; I only know this from hearsay, since I don't have <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www-132.ibm.com/content/home/store_IBMPublicUSA/en_US/eServer/pSeries/entry/6306E4_70286E4121E.html">$16,127</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> to buy one for myself yet. Unfortunately it's not for playing games, but it would more than serve my needs. <br><br>You see, I view computers and operating systems in the same perspective that one would view a car. In certain situations, for example when just crusing around, you may find yourself wanting a car that is fun, easy to use, but not exactly long lived, like the last 50 S-10's that I've seen that were "Slammed" (lowered so bad that you see sparks fly out from underneath them when they take off from a stoplight), or like a chevette; these are your Windows PC's(win 95/98/ME/XP home). They are great for the people that use them, they serve their purpose and so on and so forth. For other situations, such as hauling drywall or 2x4's a light duty truck or SUV would be suitable. These are the people like myself and other admin's (you too Pimp?) That use a little higher class (usually) OS like WinNT/2000/XPPro or Linux, or even MacOS. Regardless of the perpetual p1$$1ng contest that seems to go on up here pertaining to the Mac vs. PC debate, you can (and I do) get work done on a Mac w/o too much hassle, usually less than the windows PCs on campus. Now if you were trying to do some major work, like preparing an area for real estate development or mining coal, you need something along the lines of bulldozers, graters, and some other earth-moving equipment. In the computer world, these are the mainframes that run AIX, or some proprietary OS that was designed specifically for that machine. Sometimes, you see people hauling a ton of $hit in their Pinto (100MHz P1 Win98 PC as a hub for a network of 200 PC's), using a 4wd pickup truck as a means to get the groceries home (Dual Xeon 2GHz w/ 4GB RAM to run MS Word) or calling 3 of your best friends with pickup trucks to help you move instead of renting a moving van(building a 100-node beowulf cluster with 486's). I guess what I am trying to say is that people work with what they got.<br><br>I am, and we should all be applauding Naut for his willingness to try to make his Mac do more than run MacOS. Way to go Naut, keep it up and you will have a shiny new fresh linux system yet! The first couple attempts I made to install it blew up on me too; that was 4 years ago, and now I can go from a blank system to a fully installed one in 1 - 4 hours, depending on the distribution. To the naysayers here's my recommendation: Take the blue pill, and check out what's beyond windows(and Mac too). You may just like it.<br><br>Just my $0.02USD($0.03CAN) <p>....................../´¯/)<br>....................,/¯../<br>.................../..../<br>............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸<br>........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\<br>........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...')<br>.........\.................'...../<br>..........''...\.......... _.·´<br>............\..............(<br>..............\.............\...<br>DeaD_SuN</p><i></i>


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 Post subject: You go Sun.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 8:38 pm 
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Nice analogy Sun. I liked it quite a bit. I'll let you know how things go down when I get a new HD for the G3 and give linux a go again. Any questions, I'll be sure to shoot your way. Thanks again. <p>Naughtius Maximus (A.K.A.Mac-Fondler)</p><i></i>


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