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Author:  Hermskii [ Mon Sep 01, 2003 8:31 am ]
Post subject:  MAC Q&A Thread.
On my PC, when I've viewed a thread that has changed since the last time I saw it, the thread title changes colors from blue to white. On this MAC, it will only change if I reply to the thread itself. The ones I read but didn't reply to are still marked/colored as unread. WhY?

What is a G4 800Mhz chip equal to as far as a PC goes? I'd gues it's about the same as AMD XP 1800.

Why can't the keyboard tilt up like other keyboards.

When I get the UT game for this MAC, do I have to boot into OS9 to play or is OSX OK?

More questions later, I promise!
Author:  Mahatma [ Mon Sep 01, 2003 8:41 am ]
Post subject: 
I know this is a serious thread, but I couldn't help myself, since I have quite a bit of expertise on the subject.

1. The Mac will resist changing colors because this would ruin its perfect color coordination.

2. A G4 800Mhz = P7 9Ghz machine, due to its 128-bit power.

3. The keyboard shouldn't tilt up, because ergonomics would ruin its perfect look.

4. For UT, you have to boot into OSUX in order to play.

Signed,
Mahatma
Author:  Riff-Raff [ Mon Sep 01, 2003 11:39 am ]
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There is a beta upgrade that will run UT on OSX. I know of no follow through on it and it seems a bit shaky. As it stands, I pretty much stick with running UT on OS9.

Is your new Mac OS9 bootable Herm? I ask this because some of the new units can only run OSX (they run OS9 in "classic" mode but can't start up using the old architecture). Trust me, you don't want to run UT using "classic" mode.

torp
Author:  <SRA>Maximus [ Mon Sep 01, 2003 11:52 am ]
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Herm I have been away for the weekend shooting up rebels and drinking heavily. I will try to answer some of your questions the best i can. First of all let me congratulate you on what will soon become a new obsession fo you. i don't think you will ever totally let go of the PC world because you are after all a guy who likes to tinker. I wish you had asked prior to buying though because I would have suggested that you wait a bit. The newest version of Apple's OS will be out very shortly. perhaps as soon as the end of this month. You may have to shell out the cash for it now.

1. If you are using I.E. dump itt right now Herm. It's no longer being updated by The Great White Dweeb Satan. Microsoft has packed it in. I actually just checked safari and noticed the same thing though. Hmmmm interesting. This is the first full version of Apples web browser though so I am sure this will be rectified. Probably with the release of Panther (OS 10.3). I use Camino as my web browser and find it very good. Blocks popup and loads fast as hell with a broadband connection. Little flakey with frames on occasion. I placed the link down below.

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/camino/

2. Who knows. You've used a p3's and p4's so you be the judge and let us all know what you think.

3. There is a flap that is along the bottom front of the keyboard. You can pull that backwards to add elevation to the keyboard.

4. If you don't get the update for UT your mac will run what it calls classic in order to run UT. There is an update and I will send it to you. it's not an official update but it does work. Make sure you've downloaded all the prior patches for UT before installing this one.

Hope this helps.
Author:  Riff-Raff [ Mon Sep 01, 2003 12:07 pm ]
Post subject: 
Now I know Mah is jealous. I bet his new laptop is giving him troubles.
Author:  Hermskii [ Mon Sep 01, 2003 3:14 pm ]
Post subject:  OS9 boot?
Torp, I think this is one of them that only boots in OSX. How do I tell for sure?

Max, how much is this Panther OS going to cost? Is it considered that big of a deal as far as a upgrade goes?

A note about the links not changing colors after I visited them: After I posted the last MAC post, they did change to white. There might be some type of a time dely is my guess but they did change to white. I have the IE installed because I was afraid of the Safari but then I used Safari and it worked faster and was basically the same so I'll be trashing the IE soon.

Thanks for the info about the flap on the keyboard. I will look at that again in a minute.

You mentioned to be sure I have all the previous patches on first to run the beta UT package. Please give me the complete order of things for the install. Example:

1. Install MAC version of UT?
2. Install MAC version of patch 436?
3. Install Mac version of Bonus Packs?
4. Install Mac version of OSX platform patch etc etc. Thank you.

Isn't there a Demo version for MACs with UT and can I actually screw something up if it's made for OSX or OS9 and I don't use the right one? Will it warn me?

Thanks in advance. Sorry for all of the questions too. i haven't really sat down and been able to discuss this stuff with a MAC person so I will seem pretty newbyish until I actually have a MAC person sit on my new machine and show me stuff.
Author:  Hermskii [ Mon Sep 01, 2003 3:30 pm ]
Post subject:  More!
Question1:

Certain Icons in the Dock have little black arrows under them. What do the arrows mean and why are they there?

Question 2:

I exported my wifes email address book to a comma seprated text format. I burned that to a rewritable disk and put it in the MAC. I launched heremail program and went to import them. It won't let me map first name, last name, or email addresses to the MAC program thus I end up with 50 contacts but none have any identifying info on them? I can't figure out at all how to import her messages.

Question 3:

If I want to see disk usage, prefereably like in a PIE graph like Windows, how do I do that? Does MAC have defrag and scandisk and stuff like that to take care of the drive with? I haven't seen anything yet. I LOVE the Network Utilities that come with it. Whois, Port Scan, Trace Route and several other tools all right there to use at will. Schweeeet!
Author:  JimmyNeutron [ Mon Sep 01, 2003 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: OS9 boot?
Hermskii wrote:
...
You mentioned to be sure I have all the previous patches on first to run the beta UT package. Please give me the complete order of things for the install. Example:

1. Install MAC version of UT?
2. Install MAC version of patch 436?
3. Install Mac version of Bonus Packs?
4. Install Mac version of OSX platform patch etc etc. Thank you.

Isn't there a Demo version for MACs with UT and can I actually screw something up if it's made for OSX or OS9 and I don't use the right one? Will it warn me?

Thanks in advance. Sorry for all of the questions too. i haven't really sat down and been able to discuss this stuff with a MAC person so I will seem pretty newbyish until I actually have a MAC person sit on my new machine and show me stuff.


When I send you my copy, it will include all the patches up to 436 and instructions on the order in which to apply them. See the other thread wherein you proclaim that you've bought a Mac (even though you incorrectly CAPITALIZED it :roll: , shame on you... :lol: )
Author:  <SRA>Maximus [ Mon Sep 01, 2003 6:23 pm ]
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1. The little black triangle is telling you that application is still open. click on the icon. The bar along the top of your screen will now show the name of that program instead of saying finder. Click on the name of the prog and a drop down menu will appear. Choose QUIT at the bottom of the list. Bye Bye little black diamond. The prog is noi longer running. You can also use key commands to do this. Once you have the name of the prog showing you can hold the Command key down ( this is the little key with the apple on it located to the left and right of the space bar) and then press the letter Q. This will also quit the prog.

2. Need to know what Prog your using for email. If its Eudoro iI'm not sure it will work.

3. Disk usage can be viewed either using the Disk Utility prog in your utilities folder which is in your app's folder. Or you can set your finder up to always show your usage. To do this click on yourfinder (this is the little smiley icon at the bottom left in the dock) or you can double click your hard drive icon. Either way it will show all your Drives. go up the the bar across the top of your screen and click on view and select "Show status bar" from the roll down menu. Now everytime you double click your hard drive or click on the smiley you will see what's available on your drive listed just below the tool bar in the "finder" window.
Speaking of the finder window might I suggest setting it up in column view as opposed to icon view. This may be a little disorienting for you at first but it makes navigating through your hard drive much easier and allows you to followthe path you used to get to a certain folder or app. You can do this by once again going up to view and choosing Columns from the drop down menu or you can click on the view button in the menu bar of your Finder window.
Author:  Hermskii [ Mon Sep 01, 2003 8:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Ahh!
Thanks Max! The email she is using is Entorage. We did buy the .mac or .com that lets us back up to the web and I undestand that we can talk with a web cam through ichat as well. Thanks for all of the info so far.

I have determined that I can't boot into OS9 but it will launch from OSX when I use a program designed in OS9. I downloaded the UT Demo for Macs and installed and played it. I only get about 20 FPS in the game and the RAVE driver appears to me like Software rendereing does on a PC. I do get a ton of color though. Jimmy Nuetron has offered to send me his full version of UT for Mac so I will be contacting him soon.

She has 256 mb of ram in this Mac right now. Will it make any difference to jack it up to 512?
Author:  <SRA>Maximus [ Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:02 pm ]
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Yes jack up the memory Herm and no Herm you can no longer boot up in OS9. With the last major update to OSX (it was called jaguar) they did away with that option.
Author:  Mahatma [ Mon Sep 01, 2003 11:39 pm ]
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You will have to add strange daughterboards and maybe even that turbo box-thingy! :lol:

Herm are you using the mouse? What is your professional opinion? :P
Author:  JimmyNeutron [ Tue Sep 02, 2003 9:29 am ]
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<SRA>Maximus wrote:
Yes jack up the memory Herm and no Herm you can no longer boot up in OS9. With the last major update to OSX (it was called jaguar) they did away with that option.
Remember it's not the software the determines whether the computer can boot into OS 9, it's the hardware.

So my now-old Mac G4 uses Jaguar (10.2) and also boots into OS 9 (which I prefer). As long as the computer and firmware support OS 9, you can always boot into it (just install OS 9 to a separate partition).

But your newly purchased iMac will probably NOT boot into OS 9 because of the firmware it contains.

BTW, two HUGELY useful websites for Mac users are:

www.macintouch.com
www.macsurfer.com
Author:  <SRA>Maximus [ Tue Sep 02, 2003 10:02 am ]
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I stand corrected. Thanks for clarifying that Jimmy. I believe it was a short time after jaguar was released Apple decided that all new units would only boot in OSX. I bought my G4 after this time so I can no longer boot in 9, but I have no real need to. You definitely cannot boot in 9 Herm.
Author:  The Jargonaut [ Tue Sep 02, 2003 3:17 pm ]
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After looking at the above post, I wonder if Macs ARE easier to use than PCs??? :?
Also, is it possible to run WinXP and Mac OSX on the same machine, either PC or Mac?
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